LOST // The Substitute liveblog

Onward with the LOST-pocalypse! The Substitute is spooling up, and here are the rules.

The live blog begins below:

9:59pm — “Hell yes.” Wait, Sawyer is going to help Faux-Locke?! This is getting even more interesting. So much revealed tonight! Quick, before we call it, what was the best reveal of the night? Do you think Sawyer is safe in helping Faux-Locke, or is he at greater risk? Discuss!

9:55pm – His name was Jacob. Wait, each of the Losties corresponds to a number?

23 Shephard

8 Reyes

16 Jarrah

42 Kwon

4 Locke

15 Ford

And, Jacob met each one of them. Now Faux-Locke is spinning things, Jacob “pushed” them to the island. They were candidates to replace Jacob? Wait, that’s why Faux-Locke needs to kill them! If all of the candidates die, then he is free! The devil and his lies.

9:54pm — John Locke: Substitute teacher. Holy cow, it’s Ben Linus! The amount of crossover in this new timeline is pretty amazing. But why?!

9:50pm – Oh man, Darlton is doing a really good job with season 6. This episode is so steeped in mythology, I feel like I’ve jumped back to Lockdown in season 2 — blast door anyone? Names scrawled on the cave wall, but why? Were those Jacob’s notes?

9:48pm – I keep anticipating a Lenny moment from Faux-Locke, mostly because of mini-Jacob’s reference to “the rules.” Where are they going? Black and white rocks on a scale. Balance of power, Jacob and Man in Black! Oooh, he tossed Jacob’s rock into the ocean. “Inside joke.”

9:47pm – Damn.

9:46pm – Push the ladder Sawyer. Kill him!

9:42pm — Why does John refuse help from Jack? Here’s the thing, part of him likes being in that chair. But why? Oh, is he going to blame being fired for his refusal to accept help? Better yet, how much you want to bet that his knives aren’t in the luggage? OK, nevermind. Interesting, she’s wearing a shirt that says “karma” on it. Also, she stays by his side in this timeline, and keeps the faith.

9:39pm — So, Faux-Locke is stuck. But why? What are the rules damnit!? BTW — updated the lyrics to Search and Destroy by Iggy Pop and The Stooges below. Ben giving eulogy to John Locke? Oh the irony! And he admits to murdering him!

9:34pm — Part of me wants Sawyer to follow Faux-Locke in hopes that he will spill some beans. The other part of me screams, “Run back to Alpert for crying out loud!!” This is crazy good.

9:29pm – Rose’s talk with Locke is loaded with information. She has cancer, I’ll need to revisit this. I love that Sawyer’s fascination with literature just moved from figurative to literal. Of Mice and Men spelled out, and then re-enacted? BTW — Here are the lyrics to Iggy Pop and The Stooges’ Search and Destroy:

“I’m a street walking cheetah
with a hide full of napalm
I’m a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
I am a world’s forgotten boy
The one who searches and destroys
Honey gotta help me please
Somebody gotta save my soul
Baby detonates for me
Look out honey, ’cause I’m using technology !
Ain’t got time to make no apology
Soul radiation in the dead of night
Love in the middle of a fire fight
Honey gotta strike me blind
Somebody gotta save my soul
Baby penetrates my mind
And I’m the world’s forgotten boy
The one who’s searchin’, searchin’ to destroy
And honey I’m the world’s forgotten boy
The one who’s searchin’, searchin’ to destroy
Forgotten boy, forgotten boy
Forgotten boy said
hey forgotten boy”

[update]

I’ve bolded the sections of the song that actually had screen time last night. Pretty telling if you consider the following:

  • Jacob appearing as a boy –> “world’s forgotten boy”
  • The use of Jughead/Jacob as a boy –> “I’m the runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb”
  • Redemption, being saved, soul –> “Somebody gotta save my soul.”

9:29pm — Alpert is crazy and frantic, we’ve NEVER seen him like this. Desperation, this is true fear. Oh man, now Faux-Locke denies the kid exists. But why? Is he planning to kill Sawyer? “What kind of animal would you describe yourself as?” I really wish John responded with “Polar Bear.” HOLY SHIT! Rose?!? What is GOING on here?

9:27pm — Hannahmcnoface points out that Sawyer was listening to Search and Destroy: “The one who’s searching/searching to destroy.” OK, so how does this apply to Jacob/Man in Black? Discuss during commercials.

9:24pm — Burials always remind me of Nikki and Paolo. Will they return? Fingers crossed they don’t. HOLY SHIT, the kid! Who is that? My money is on Jacob. Sawyer sees him? He was a candidate, too.

9:21pm — BTW, for the record, my wife prefers a pantsless Sawyer. Just sayin’. Oh poor John, he can’t even get revenge when he wants to. OH SHIT, Hurley and Locke cross paths in this timeline. Luckiest man alive, indeed. Oh man, Hurley is the nicest person alive, even in the new timeline.

9:19pm — Sawyer’s ambivilence is interesting. I like that they really developed the Juliet arc to a point of extreme believability. Oh wow, even drunk Sawyer sniffed out the truth about Faux-Locke. Does anyone else find it funny that Faux-Locke keeps promising answers? Wait, I know who he is…DARLTON!

9: 16pm — What is Sawyer listening to? OK, so does Faux-Locke plan to be straight with Sawyer? Wait, who am I kidding?! He’s lying to EVERYONE.

9:12pm — And here’s Ben. Will he be honest this time around? Nope, lying about Jacob’s death, sort of. He’s asking for answers about Richard. “He’s recruiting.” Interesting. Seems like Jacob was doing the same.

9:08pm — Hmm, still at the box factory. Randy is back to harass our favorite Locke. And now he’s fired. What was he up to in the outback? Wait, John was a candidate? A candidate for WHAT? Now Faux-Locke is promising the world to Richard. Alpert is loyal to Jacob and…WHOA! Who was that boy?

9:06pm — Whoa! Smokey cam is amazing! Oh crap, now Faux-Locke is looking for some answers from Richard. So, my questions: Which chains were Faux-Locke referring to back in LA X? How much does Richard know about the Man in Black? This can’t be good.

9:04pm — So Helen didn’t leave him in this timeline, and they are getting married. AND she’s a WOMAN OF FAITH!

9:00pm – Locke’s even more miserable sans-crash. I have to admit, the attempt to jump off the ramp was admirable but the sprinklers sealed his fate as a loser. WHAT?! Katy Sagel (aka Helen in the Lost-o-verse) returns? There’s going to be a wedding? Aaaaa-YuLL!


  • Anonymous

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who’s searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • Anonymous

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who’s searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • Anonymous

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who’s searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • Anonymous

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who’s searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • Anonymous

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who’s searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • Anonymous

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who’s searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn’t pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn’t pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn’t pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn’t pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn’t pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn’t pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I’m waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I’m waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I’m waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I’m waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I’m waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I’m waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I’ll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I’ll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I’ll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I’ll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I’ll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I’ll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with lyrics, enjoy.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with lyrics, enjoy.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with lyrics, enjoy.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with lyrics, enjoy.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with lyrics, enjoy.

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.nnMy money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.

    My money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.nnMy money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.nnMy money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.nnMy money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.nnMy money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there’s too much to comment on. I’ll save this for after the show ends.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we’re all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.nnI’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.

    I’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.nnI’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.nnI’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.nnI’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.nnI’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.nnI’m just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It’s very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?nnAdditionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?nnLastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?

    Additionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?

    Lastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?nnAdditionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?nnLastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?nnAdditionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?nnLastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?nnAdditionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?nnLastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?nnAdditionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?nnLastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?nnAdditionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What’s the significance of his childhood self?nnLastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I’m very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can’t wait to see where this leads.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t! nnAs for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.nnThis season is very good.

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t!

    As for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.

    This season is very good.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t! nnAs for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.nnThis season is very good.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t! nnAs for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.nnThis season is very good.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t! nnAs for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.nnThis season is very good.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t! nnAs for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.nnThis season is very good.

  • whicheverwhatever

    I can’t wait either. It’s just so interesting.. I’m wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn’t! nnAs for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.nnThis season is very good.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn’t fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn’t read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin.

    Maybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women.

    4 8 15 16 23 42

    John Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.

    Everything else was pretty awesome too.

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin. nnMaybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women. nn4 8 15 16 23 42nnJohn Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.nnEverything else was pretty awesome too.n

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin. nnMaybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women. nn4 8 15 16 23 42nnJohn Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.nnEverything else was pretty awesome too.n

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin. nnMaybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women. nn4 8 15 16 23 42nnJohn Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.nnEverything else was pretty awesome too.n

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin. nnMaybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women. nn4 8 15 16 23 42nnJohn Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.nnEverything else was pretty awesome too.n

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin. nnMaybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women. nn4 8 15 16 23 42nnJohn Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.nnEverything else was pretty awesome too.n

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he’s not sure if it’s Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it’s Jin. nnMaybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women. nn4 8 15 16 23 42nnJohn Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.nnEverything else was pretty awesome too.n

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.

    Although admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.nnAlthough admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.nnAlthough admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.nnAlthough admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.nnAlthough admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.nnAlthough admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.nnAlthough admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?

  • hannahmcnoface

    Sawyer is listening to Search and Destroy:”The one who's searching/searching to destroy” !!!

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Ah, nice. I didn't pick that up. Holy cow, that kid is creepy in a Shining sort of way.

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    I was wondering the same about the music Sawyer was listening to. I'm waiting for some blog to out the song or something.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    I'll do my best to search it out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Updated with the lyrics. BTW — Thanks to hannahmcnoface for the clue.

  • dianne

    I enjoyed the fact that Richard looked so manic when he was warning Sawyer. That was my guilty pleasure of this segment. Also, I enjoyed seeing Rose, despite her cancer storyline continuing.

    My money is on the kid being a mini-Jacob, too. (Just my two cents on this Lost segment.. and to keep the conversation going)

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Completely agree. That has to be a mini-Jacob, but my question is “what are the rules?” Ok, I was wrong about the knives (damn!)

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    I was just gonna reply to something, but now.. there's too much to comment on. I'll save this for after the show ends.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    OK, we're all done on the West Coast, fire away!

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    Okay.. I think best reveal, hands down, was the wall.

    I'm just.. overwhelmed. I (sadistically) want Sawyer to help faux-Locke bec. I want to see what fL is capable of doing. It's very “Jack-is-calling-your-bluff-by-taking-the-pill.” So I vote for Sawyer to help out.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes. The wall and the scribbling of names was an excellent reveal. The NUMBERS! Finally we have some correlation between the Losties and the Numbers, but what is the connection?

    Additionally, I really liked the reveal that Jacob is still in play, if only in mini-Jacob form. Is that his true form? What's the significance of his childhood self?

    Lastly, Alpert — truly fearful. Completely out of control for once. I'm very much floored by his turn in this episode, frenetic and full of concern. I can't wait to see where this leads.

  • http://diannedeguzman.tumblr.com whicheverwhatever

    I can't wait either. It's just so interesting.. I'm wondering what faux-Locke is lying about and what he isn't!

    As for Alpert, yeah, he is truly scared and that is very intriguing. Usually, he taunts other people.

    This season is very good.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Yes! I know what you mean. One of the key themes in LOST has always been trust. Who is lying, and who is telling the truth? For example, we couldn't fully read Ben when we first met him. Then we couldn't read Alpert. Now we are faced with Jacob and Faux Locke. Even Mr. Friendly, Juliet, Mikhail, Desmond, Mrs. Faraday, and Dr. Chang have all fallen into the “questionable” seat at one point. Can they be trusted? How much can we take as being true?

  • http://twitter.com/joshuaheller josh heller

    So each of the numbers corresponds to a different man. Faux-Locke says he's not sure if it's Sun or Jin, but every other person from the corresponding numbers, is a man. So I think it's Jin.

    Maybe there is a corresponding set of numbers that refer to women.

    4 8 15 16 23 42

    John Locke, Hugo Reyes, Sawyer Ford, Sayid Jarrah, Jack Shephard, Jin Kwon.

    Everything else was pretty awesome too.

  • http://cineoctoboo.com/ mario

    Hmm, I think you may be jumping the gun on Sun vs. Jin. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems in the Lost-o-verse. I also have a tough time believing that the numbers are gender-centric.

    Although admittedly it is pretty curious that Kate is not among the list of candidates. Then again, everyone is there for a reason, right?